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Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 18:42:00 - [1] check you event viewers guys and see if it's python25.dll causing this as that is the cause of 100% of my eve crashes.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 20:27:00 - [2] Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 Originally by: Zeba Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 If the EVE client itself were to blame for such crashes, it would affect everybody, which would pretty much flood these forums with whining. (Justified whining is still whining ) Actually thats not quite true. It could be many many factors like certain hardware combinations that ccp never had a chance to test the code out on that are triggering random crashing. [...] Even if that were the case, the problem would not be with the EVE client itself, but rather with the drivers for that specific hardware-combo. Software developers can never be expected to test their software out on more than a fraction of available hardware. If a specific hardware fails to run code built on standard libraries, like DirectX, which I assume EVE is built on, it can't be blamed on the code itself. If there were problems with the code itself, any hardware that executes standard code correctly would be affected. Seeing as most hardware runs it without problems, I would assume the code is fine, but that the hardware (driver) failing to execute it is defective. No it could be a problem with the client and the hardware nothing to do with drivers at all.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 20:28:00 - [3] Originally by: Mr Crepsley All the crashes I get after the patch are related to DEP first thing i do after installing or patching eve is add it to dep exception list or disable dep completely.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 20:42:00 - [4] Originally by: Zeba Well considering the impecibly clean nature of my comp and the fact the crashes started on the last patch and never happened before then it seems there might be a misplaced decimal or other such mistake in the code of what is turning out to the be biggest and moast complex expansion to date for eve or any other mmo tbh. But eh now that I think about it it seems tied to the fitting sceen being open when changing ships or messing with the autofitting option. It will get squashed. Check event viewer see if it was python25.dll that caused the crash
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 20:43:00 - [5] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa What is the module you guys are crashing with? I crashed with a direct3D error, how about you guys? Every crash i experience is caused by python25.dll ps what subsytem skill did you lose?
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 20:46:00 - [6] Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII No it could be a problem with the client and the hardware nothing to do with drivers at all. It could be sonic vibrations emanating from the roof of your house, which is being hit by the radiation from solar-flairs! ... Simply saying it doesn't really mean anything unless you can at least logically explain it. Like I explained before, most actual client problems would have a global effect. Actual hardware defects are rare (relatively) and usually have less than subtle side-affects. (Boot-failures and such) Driver problems are very common and can be very elusive. The simplest explanation is usually the right one. the huge list of python25.dll errors in my event viewer is the simplest explanation i need.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 20:59:00 - [7] Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII No it could be a problem with the client and the hardware nothing to do with drivers at all. It could be sonic vibrations emanating from the roof of your house, which is being hit by the radiation from solar-flairs! ... Simply saying it doesn't really mean anything unless you can at least logically explain it. Like I explained before, most actual client problems would have a global effect. Actual hardware defects are rare (relatively) and usually have less than subtle side-affects. (Boot-failures and such) Driver problems are very common and can be very elusive. The simplest explanation is usually the right one. the huge list of python25.dll errors in my event viewer is the simplest explanation i need. Well if you found the error the whole debugging process if over. No guesswork required. By the way, what do the errors say, exactly? Faulting module python25.dll lol
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:06:00 - [8] Edited by: Khlitouris RegusII on 27/03/2009 21:07:15 Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII Faulting module python25.dll lol Ok. To be honest, that sounds like a file-system error to me... a corrupt DLL. I would try re-installing EVE. See if that helps. Or even re-install it into a second, temporary, location and copy the "python25.dll" from the new one to the old one. Yeah tried that million and one times. it started the patch b4 the first apocrypha patch.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:36:00 - [9] Edited by: Khlitouris RegusII on 27/03/2009 21:37:02 Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII Yeah tried that million and one times. it started the patch b4 the first apocrypha patch. Hmmm... Do you have Python installed separately? Could it be interfering somehow? There are to many possible reasons why this may be affecting yo so much, really. I would probably re-format my HDD and go from there. But that's just me Windows can get really buggy, really fast. I prefer not to use the same installation for more than a couple of months if I can help it. Come to think of it... EVE has crashed on me a couple of times since Apocrypha. Maybe it's time to wipe it clean not got python installed and have done 3 complete windows, eve installs since this started plus memtest and various different drivers etc. I'm not a pc noob :( have been building my own pc's for about 8 years now.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:44:00 - [10] Originally by: 5pinDizzy If I open fitting screen while docked and then try to pan view by holding down the right mouse button, eve crashes almost instantly, strange. Logserver showed nothing as far as I could see too. Have you checked your event viewer?

Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:56:00 - [11] Originally by: 5pinDizzy Yeah but didn't give any clues to me, said faulty module unknown. Just around 7 messages from each time I crashed it, all the same. Quote: Faulting application ExeFile.exe, version 6.10.1.17562, time stamp 0x49ad318e, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, time stamp 0x00000000, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x13a40f68, process id 0x12a0, application start time 0x01c9af24b1d2d6ea. well at least you know its not a driver issue.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:36:00 - [12] Originally by: Gealbhan Yup I was changing ships tonight and for the 1st time ever "CCP.exe has stopped working" Crashed. Try adding eve to dep exception list for some reaason if eve trys to change something in memory windows see's it as a virus and stops it doing what its trying to do. if you still crash after that check event viewer for any python25.dll errors.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.28 02:11:00 - [13] Edited by: Khlitouris RegusII on 28/03/2009 02:13:18 Originally by: Gealbhan Nope, was changing ships to see if I could replicate the crash again and boom - stopped working. I added EvE to the DEP like you said and I'm running Vista 32bit with all the latest updates for the system and my drivers etc. Like I said EvE has never crashed on me before and it's done it twice tonight now. And looky here... Problem signature Problem Event Name:BEX Application Name:ExeFile.exe Application Version:6.10.1.17562 Application Timestamp:49ad318e Fault Module Name:python25.dll Fault Module Version:2.5.3100.1013 Fault Module Timestamp:494270e1 Exception Offset:0002bf67 Exception Code:c0000409 Exception Data:00000000 OS Version:6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID:6153 Additional Information 1:17cd Additional Information 2:e22b484d6891ae11294af5ba506bf7b0 Additional Information 3:6c0b Additional Information 4:3a61b4a9345b1187691ad878ed679b1a Thankyou can everyone who is experienceing crashes check for python25.dll errors in there event viewers and file bug reports to ccp. 100% of MY eve crashes are all caused by python25.dll

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